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Hardlight Shield tips

Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:56 am

Copy nnpaste from gamefaqs


<cite>jannic86 posted...</cite>
<quote>So I spent the time and whipped up a Forge map, mostly for getting a feel for the new weapons and armor abilities. As part of that, I tested the hardlight shield against everything I could think of.


POSITIVE RESULTS:

Stops, actually reflects in most cases, weapon fire from every single weapon, including all vehicle weapons, when the shield is hit directly. (Yes, including the Scorpion Tank's main cannon and the Gauss Warthog cannon.)

Spartan Laser is not reflected, just nullified.

Melee attack hitting the shield directly is nullified.

Energy sword attack hitting the shield directly is nullified.

Gravity hammer will pop your shield (*not* the hardlight shield), but not kill you. Second hit will kill you. I believe this effect is because the blast from the hammer throws you up, which allows the splash damage to hit you from below.

Charged plasma pistol shot is reflected. It doesn't affect the hardlight shield.

Plasma grenades don't stick to it, and fall to the ground. Plasma grenades already stuck to you before raising the shield will kill you. (This isn't armor lock.)

Sticky detonator rounds don't stick to it, and fall to the ground. However, you could still get killed pretty easily if you don't leave blast range and the other guy waits until you lower the hardlight shield before detonating. Also, if stuck before raising the shield, you're dead.

Splash damage from things like grenades, fuel rod shots hitting the ground, rockets shot at the ground, incinerator cannon shot secondary explosions, will all be nullified as long as the blast is more or less directly in front of you and the bottom of the hardlight shield is touching the ground. Splash damage from explosions that occur next to you, behind the hardlight shield, will still damage/kill you.

Rocket warthog volley can still kill you because a lot of the rockets will actually hit the ground around you, due to the spread, rather than reflecting safely off the hardlight shield.

Weapon fire reflection can be used offensively if you're close enough. The hardlight shield is slightly rounded, so shots that are off center will probably bounce away harmlessly, but shots near the center of the shield will bounce back and can hit the attacker. I accidentally destroyed some nearby vehicles during the Scorpion Tank test, so conceivably you could destroy the tank with its own attacks if they reflected just right.


NEGATIVE RESULTS:

The hardlight shield has no effect at all on vehicle movement. You can still be splattered, and probably more easily since you can't move as fast. The Mantis stomp attack is likewise unaffected.

As said above, splash damage that occurs next to you, behind the hardlight shield, is still dangerous.


I CAN'T REMEMBER RESULTS:

I can't remember what happened with pulse grenades. I'll retest and post a follow-up. I think what happens is that a pulse grenade detonated in front of you still damages and possibly kills you, because the field it generates isn't affected by the hardlight shield at all.


POSSIBLY ALSO USEFUL TIP:

The hardlight shield can be aimed. It maintains a position relative to your aiming reticule. That means if you look up, the shield tilts up, giving attackers an opening on shooting your feet or allowing splash damage in front of you to hit you. Keep that in mind when looking around with it out.


Ask away with any other questions and I'll try to answer them. If you want to try things out for yourself, I put up the Forge map I used in my Fileshare, with ordnance drops for every weapon and all vehicles loaded. Gamertage is "shmip".</quote>
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Re: Hardlight Shield tips

Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:57 am

ah thanks fot this, I kinda use it sometimes to block hallways or get away whil noshield, but I mostly forgot I even have it because I always used sprint in Reach and now sprint is standart :)
 
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Re: Hardlight Shield tips

Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:04 am

Can the passenger in a warthog use this ???

::panic:: think of the possibilities
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Re: Hardlight Shield tips

Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:08 am

Cheeseball wrote:
Can the passenger in a warthog use this ???

::panic:: think of the possibilities


that would be awesome, but AA don't work in vehicles, id love Promethean vision in the driver seat
 
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Re: Hardlight Shield tips

Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:05 pm

I was playing quite a bit of FFA today and there was one guy who used this AA very effectively. When I was attempting to kill the king with another player nearby he would pull out his shield which forced me and the other attacking player to face off. So as the king waited until we were both weak to get easy kills, I soon caught on to his crafty tactics.

I almost exclusively use jetpack with unlimited sprint which allows you to get around the map extremely fast.
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Re: Hardlight Shield tips

Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:30 am

I killed someone with my shield today. ::flex::
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Re: Hardlight Shield tips

Fri Nov 30, 2012 3:17 pm

This is my go-to Anti-Vehicular AA. I pair it with plasmas and stickies (of course) and ordinance priority.

The only thing I don't like about it is that the shield takes a while to engage. It isn't Armor Lock so there is no "Frosting" effect. There have been a few times where I throw a grenade but can't get the shield up in time to save me from its effect or from the vehicle I just stuck.

Other than that, its pretty awesome.
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Re: Hardlight Shield tips

Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:51 pm

I had a strange with a needler. The needles were bouncing off my shield, but i died anyway! It was probably just a glitch, because usually i'm able to block needlers.

Now for something useful:

you can drop the shield and melee faster than dropping the shield and shooting. I don't notice any delay with the melee. You can also jump right away.

Also, your sensitivity affects the turn speed while the shield is up. So using a higher sensitivity would be better for the shield user.
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Re: Hardlight Shield tips

Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:53 am

Another tip for Shield Users...

Dont use Bumper Jumper...

I really need to take the time to learn a new control scheme.... Right now Jetpacks and Shields are pretty much out of the deal for me.
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Re: Hardlight Shield tips

Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:07 pm

Here is that kill i was talking aboot!

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