As many of you know, I do not get to play enough. I need to take some time to figure some things out with this game. I have a lot of ideas about some stuff, but I don't have enough time to play and experiment like I need to. So, if you all don't mind, please save and upload random games to your fileshare and post here so I can pick them up.

I need to study some film to come up with some strategies and solutions to obstacles in this game that have impeded consistent success in our lobbies.


tl;dr UPLOAD ANY FILM TO YOUR FILESHARE AND SEND IT TO ME SO I CAN MAKE SOME STRATS

Any playlist? Or do you want to focus on 1 or 2 of them?

I had a film where I got raped by amazing teamwork on adrift slayer. I watched it, but then deleted it

The enemies were flanking us ALL THE TIME. And pairing up ordnances: Speedboost with sword and speedboost with hammer to get us out of one of the bases once i realized what was happening to us and I told our team to camp.

Anyways, I think I only have mantis runs right now. Do you want them? (probably not much help from my point of view)

Also, I dont think we can upload whole games to our fileshares. We gotta record the whole film, and then put the big filmclip in. I'm not sure if previous halo games were like this, or if i'm just doing it wrong.

You're doing it wrong. You can upload entire games. But any film is fine. I just need DATA. I don't care what it is, I just need film of everything. Even if you are doing one thing, I will often fly around to see more stuff that's going on in the game. I just don't have enough data on my own to do the things I need to do.

i have plenty of film of what not to do....

Ok, i just added a bunch of films. that adrift game i was talking aboot was still in my recent games, so i added that one too.

There are some ragnarok, meltdown, and vortex films as well.

I'll see if i can archive some games next time i am on halo; do you care whether it is a game where my team is getting owned or one where we are pwning?

Hard to gauge since you arn't asking for anything specific, so you just want any games in general to extrapolate data as implied?

Sounds like random sampling...

Would it be helpful to reduce the samples to just one playlist? BTB or Dominion? Or maybe just a few maps?

Will do as soon as i know!

No, it doesn't matter what you guys send me. Descriptions help so I know what I'm getting into. I will organize the film myself. I will probably tackle strategies one map at a time and try to come up with stuff specific to playlilsts. I just don't want everyone trying to do things I'm asking them to do right now. I just need raw gameplay from everyone doing what they would normally do so I can figure stuff out.

I will upload a few to my fileshare this evening...

I'll let ya know when sarge

10 hour forge film incoming

Black Knight wrote:

10 hour forge film incoming

You are my hero.

Here's some data I've gleaned from multiple films I've watched myself:

Don't get noticed. Players who try actively to escape notice do much better. It may sound obvious or stupid, but every film I've watched of people doing well involves getting yourself set up and positioning yourself on the periphery of the action. Whole teams can do this, grab a few things to get set up and then just camp out. The action will eventually find you, but if you make a point of having it stumble upon you instead of stumbling upon it you do better.

We've seen it in BTB games, one of which I remember playing with you Sarge. We had the entire half of Ragnarok under control but we lost to mostly camo snipers. It was stupid but there wasn't much we could do about it.

A combination of things make this less "captain obvious" and more Halo 4. Kill times are faster than ever, you can kill extremely fast even at extreme ranges thanks to the DMR, overall it just doesn't pay to get noticed in Halo 4. Everything that was always true before is even more true now.

Strategies for controlling maps should probably involve controlling a few defensible things and then sitting back and letting the enemy kill themselves. You want a strong presence in 1-2 places and you don't want to sacrifice a lot of points pushing for things. Long slow games that feel like stalemates tend to favor the team that's making them feel that way. We know for example that controlling Bravo is important in Longbow, Exile, and Vortex, but what we might not have known is that extending out of them to shoot is nearly unnecessary. In Exile and Vortex a tank can shoot into Bravo and cause problems, but avoiding them is easy and it's better to just let pushes into your territory fail than to try and claim new territory.

Ordnance makes the locations you control less important than the fact that you control them, and watching the game timer will let you know when you need to control what areas. It's important to control certain vehicles and weapons, but the Gauss on Exile can get only a few kills if the entire enemy team is hiding from it. Tanks are different due to splash, you want those controlled or killed ASAP. Other than that most of the winning strategies I've seen involve doing just as I've said above, pick a spot you can defend and control it absolutely.

Every team's biggest weakness is its respawns. You can keep an iron grip on Bravo but you can't get players to spawn in there. You can hide from the Gauss and the Tank and the Banshee but your respawns can't. You can hide with your sniper rifle all day but your respawns don't have sniper rifles. Your chances of dying increase dramatically after your first death. Those are your reasons to eliminate certain threats, your respawns. If enemies don't have shots on your respawn zones, you have no reason to peak out to shoot at them. Someone will get stupid and push, that's where your points are coming from. Dropping a sniper in a key position is important, but chances are that position is key because you're dying trying to oust them.

Hey sarge, check out my fileshare, there is a Big Team Battle game saved in there, Also a SWAT game, But I have NO CLUE whats going on with the SWAT game, or if its even a full game... Its been in there awhile. I'd have added more games, But My Temporary history was empty and I was feeling some AC: Revelations yesterday.

Just uploaded a bunch of CTF games to my File Share as well as a Big Team Infinity Slayer.

Most of the CTF games are on Adrift and Ragnarok, those two are popular. I doubt you need any schooling on Ragnarok, but the data is there. For those who didn't know the top tunnels or "Attics" on Adrift are crucial access points in CTF. They're really the only realistic means of attacking the bases. Whichever team controls them usually has to control the middle too, which isn't hard because no one wants to go in there except to get into the Attics. You can use the mancannons for a quick pull but to actually attack the bases you need those top tunnels.

There's also a couple games of Harvest CTF and one of Complex. I am interested in Harvest CTF, so far it's the only map I've seen where a chaingun hog has a real place. Complex is pretty bad and imbalanced, as is sort of well known. The open-side flag is a lot harder to pull because you're completely defenseless out there, but it's also near impossible to defend because it's so open. The closed side has that tall grav-lift frag grenade building right next to it where enemies can just sit on top and destroy closed side spawners. I stopped voting for Complex as soon as people learned to use plasma pistols on the Ghost.

Either way plenty of data there, if a bit specific. I hope it's helpful.

I also uploaded a gametype "Teamshot training" that might be a helpful tool for any customs nights. It's a simple variation on slayer where assists are the primary source of points, so the winning team will most likely be the one with the most assists.

This evening I'll get on and start watching some of the film I've downloaded. If anyone wanted to participate or discuss with me, let me know and you can join me in the party.